Julia Dhar

So Daniel Kahneman said, nothing is important as you think it is while you are thinking about it.

And I think the personal psychology version of that is...

I'm just not as interesting as I think I am.

Yeah.

And that's a little confronting, but hopefully also wildly freeing for people, which is not that interesting to other people.

Yeah, you can put the spotlight on somebody else for a while.

Following this vein of how to change behavior, the vein being the entire episode, but following this specific vein,

What happens when you fail?

You know, we've talked a lot about how you will try multiple times, likely, you likely will.

I think I read the statistic that people try on average like 25, 30 times before a behavior sticks, if it ever does.

What's the protocol then for when you've noticed that you've slipped, you've fallen, it hasn't gone the way that you wanted it to?

Can I just say, I think that was the most important sentence in the whole episode.

What happens when you fail?

And so many people that I talk to, and I do a lot of work with CEOs or very senior executives, people much more established in their life and careers.

refuse to use the phrase when we fail or when I fail.

And we'll only talk about if we fail and are then very quick to say, but of course we won't.

We will be in the minority who succeeds, but don't do enough to really push themselves, push the team to say, maybe it will be quite healthy to plan for failure.

What happens when we fail?

And assuming that we will both lets you in advance say, well, I'm going to forgive myself first when that happens.

But then I'm going to do two things.