Julia Hartley-Brewer

We were coming up to that two-year anniversary.

And we didn't get much detail in his manifesto.

We've got even less from anti-bonham.

People weren't voting for anything.

They were voting for Andy Burnham.

That doesn't mean they were rejecting reform.

The idea that reform won, I think, all nine seats that were up for grabs in the local council only in May, just a few short weeks ago.

But suddenly, no, they've decided they've got no time for reform and Nigel Farage.

And it's all over.

They've peaked.

It's over.

It's now back to the two-party system.

I think, frankly, it's a load of nonsense.

Well, you've got to remember, I mean, again,

ostensibly this is a Labour safe seat if such exists anymore.

Would realistically another Labour candidate that wasn't Andy Burnham and wasn't someone who could be the Prime Minister in, who knows, a few days, a week's time, a few months' time, would that Labour candidate, whoever they were, would they have been able to beat reform in that seat?

I think that's a very big question.

And this is why this wasn't a victory for Labour.

This wasn't a defeat for reform.

This was a victory for the candidate who can get rid of Keir Starmer, who in this case happens to be Andy Burnham.