Julia Shaw

And I mean, there are real questions around whom we're platforming and what that has and what role we have as content creators, both of us, of the people we talk about, how we cover them.

I often come across this in true crime work that I do because I get asked to do TV shows.

I host TV shows and I host BBC podcasts.

And there's always the question of sometimes people commit murder sometimes.

to become famous.

And should it be a blanket ban that we don't cover those cases?

Or should we cover those cases, but in a different way?

Or should we anonymize it?

So there's, it doesn't mean that you shouldn't never cover that case.

It just means that you need to think about it.

One of the most disturbing crimes that we covered on bad people, and just to be clear, bad people, much like the title evil, is sort of tongue in cheek, where the idea is it's people whom we refer to as bad people.

And then it's always a question of like, who are these quote unquote bad people and are we all capable of doing these terrible things?

But one of the most certainly problematic, dark cases that we covered was the Robert Pickton case.

And the episodes are called Piggy's Palace because that was the nickname for the farm where Robert Pickton brought Piggy.

victims whom he had kidnapped and then he killed them and he did terrible things to their bodies and rumors have it certainly that he fed some of these victims to pigs.

Now one of the reasons I covered that case is actually because it was influential in my own career.

So Robert Pickton is one of the most famous Canadian serial killers of all time.

And as I was doing my undergrad at Simon Fraser University in Canada, I was being taught by someone called Stephen Hart.

And Stephen Hart was an expert witness on the Robert Pickton trial.

And so he was keeping us abreast of some of the developments of what he was covering.