Julia Shaw

Yeah, I am.

But I also, I really like surrealism and I really like messing with sense of reality, which again is obviously something that then wove its way into my academic work.

But he was also right.

I mean, I've always been very intellectual, let's just say.

I skipped a couple of grades in school.

I was part of the chess club.

Like it was very much, I was the clever kid.

And so but there's also part of me that's just like, but art is beautiful.

I love making art and it can speak to so many people.

Anyway, my grandfather convinced me not to do it.

And then I applied instead for psychology.

Although at that point, you just had to say social sciences.

You didn't have to yet specify.

But I knew it was probably going to be psychology.

And the reason for that was because my dad has paranoid schizophrenia.

And so I think one of the reasons I'm so obsessed with this idea of what is real and that is in every way.

I mean that in terms of what is real in terms of perceptions of right and wrong.

What is real in terms of our own memories of the world?

What is real in terms of what happened in a crime?

What is real in terms of perceptual abilities and neuroscience?