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Julian Morgans

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SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

Then their last pillar is offering forensic services to developing nations that don't have the resources to do it themselves.

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

Then their last pillar is offering forensic services to developing nations that don't have the resources to do it themselves.

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

So the UN can step in and offer their experts to developing countries. And that is the four ways they're trying to combat scammer farms. I guess what I'm hearing is that the problem is this sort of fast moving decentralized industry. But it sounds to me like the UNODC's response is quite formal.

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

So the UN can step in and offer their experts to developing countries. And that is the four ways they're trying to combat scammer farms. I guess what I'm hearing is that the problem is this sort of fast moving decentralized industry. But it sounds to me like the UNODC's response is quite formal.

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

Like you've got these pillars, but it doesn't sound nearly as nimble as the adversary that you guys are taking on. Like, am I right here? Is this a problem?

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

Like you've got these pillars, but it doesn't sound nearly as nimble as the adversary that you guys are taking on. Like, am I right here? Is this a problem?

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

So in summary, the criminal groups are, in the words of Mark Zuckerberg, moving fast and breaking things. And the UNODC is doing their best to move fast as well, but they're not allowed to break things. In my mind, when I'm like, how are we going to stop this? I think, oh, we need like the world sort of police. What is that? Oh, that's kind of the UN.

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

So in summary, the criminal groups are, in the words of Mark Zuckerberg, moving fast and breaking things. And the UNODC is doing their best to move fast as well, but they're not allowed to break things. In my mind, when I'm like, how are we going to stop this? I think, oh, we need like the world sort of police. What is that? Oh, that's kind of the UN.

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

Let's just send in the jet fighters and boots on the ground and let's dismantle these compounds. Like, why can't we do that?

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

Let's just send in the jet fighters and boots on the ground and let's dismantle these compounds. Like, why can't we do that?

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

i'd like to point out here that the thai government has recently started cracking down on myanmar in the start of february this year they cut electricity internet and fuel supplies to five areas along the border in an effort to choke out the scam of arms and this was a big event it was widely announced by the thai government to appease any suggestion that they were complicit so thailand has started doing their part but in the long run power cuts are pretty ineffective

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

i'd like to point out here that the thai government has recently started cracking down on myanmar in the start of february this year they cut electricity internet and fuel supplies to five areas along the border in an effort to choke out the scam of arms and this was a big event it was widely announced by the thai government to appease any suggestion that they were complicit so thailand has started doing their part but in the long run power cuts are pretty ineffective

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

as we've discussed these are huge conglomerates they can just build their own power plants but the other complication is that these regions in myanmar have become pretty financially dependent on scamming this is something that judah actually pointed out to me and what he said was that these are regions that have been dirt poor for decades and now now finally they have money and they're not going to let a simple power outage get in the way of that

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

as we've discussed these are huge conglomerates they can just build their own power plants but the other complication is that these regions in myanmar have become pretty financially dependent on scamming this is something that judah actually pointed out to me and what he said was that these are regions that have been dirt poor for decades and now now finally they have money and they're not going to let a simple power outage get in the way of that

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

Judah's point here is an incredible exercise in empathy. On the one hand, he's asking us to sympathize with the people who are scamming us. But on the other, he's illuminating why this is just going to be such a hard thing to stamp out. It's not just an illicit business. It's bringing wealth and opportunity to an impoverished war zone.

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

Judah's point here is an incredible exercise in empathy. On the one hand, he's asking us to sympathize with the people who are scamming us. But on the other, he's illuminating why this is just going to be such a hard thing to stamp out. It's not just an illicit business. It's bringing wealth and opportunity to an impoverished war zone.

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

And with that in mind, I asked John whether the world would just have to accept slavery-powered scamming as the new normal. Um, I don't want to sound like a pessimist, but it sounds like this is going to be hard to beat.

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

And with that in mind, I asked John whether the world would just have to accept slavery-powered scamming as the new normal. Um, I don't want to sound like a pessimist, but it sounds like this is going to be hard to beat.

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

So I'm kind of imagining like the old Silk Road, you know, like a marketplace where you go and buy drugs and guns. Is it like that, but just more sort of technologically advanced?

SCAMMERLAND
Small Q’s Escape and the Fight to End Forced Scamming

So I'm kind of imagining like the old Silk Road, you know, like a marketplace where you go and buy drugs and guns. Is it like that, but just more sort of technologically advanced?