Julie Menanno

Right.

So it's a way to draw people closer.

So we're talking just that little blurb is you talking about your emotional needs.

And so, yeah, that's kind of, I'm kind of getting off track here, but when two people do not feel heard, do not feel understood, do not feel validated and,

You're going to have a breakdown in communication.

We're going to go into kind of defensive positions.

And this happens at work.

It happens in any kind of interactions, right?

You know, political interactions.

I mean, you could kind of like apply the concept to these two polar opposites of the political spectrum.

Everybody has their ideas, but nobody's really truly interested.

kind of listening to each other.

And a lot of people aren't understanding the emotional roots of their ideas to begin with, which is very useful when you have an opinion, right?

And then you now plug all of this into relationships where we have

exponentially more need for emotional safety and connection right and now people aren't growing up in homes where they're learning how to do this and then it just creates you know all sorts of of problems and once you start

eroding emotional safety and closeness between a couple, it doesn't matter what they're arguing about.

It's not going to, it's there.

That emotional problem is going to find the weak spots in the relationship to start manifesting.

Wow.

Yeah.