Julie Zhuo

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708 appearances 2 recordings 2 series first heard Sep 2025 last heard 25 May

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I think the first one was going and learning to be a designer.

Because when I started at Facebook, I was hired as an engineer.

I was trained as an engineer and

computer science degree.

And so I felt that that was what I knew.

But what I really loved to do when I was in middle and high school was actually design.

I didn't know that that was what it was called at the time.

I just liked making websites.

I liked going in, opening Photoshop and creating images and then figuring out how to display those images on my website.

But I didn't know that was a profession.

I didn't know that was a thing you could do.

I picked the closest thing I could, which was like,

learning to code and learning engineering.

But once I realized that this was actually a thing that people did for a job, I was like, wait, I kind of want to do that.

But I had no formal training in design.

And so when I first joined the design team and everybody's like talking about typography and they had like studied all this.

And I remember even getting into a conversation about like Macs versus PCs and the entire design team was like,

utterly convinced that Macs were so much better designed.

And I never even used a Mac.

All I knew was PCs.

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