Julie Zhuo

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708 appearances 2 recordings 2 series first heard Sep 2025 last heard 25 May

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That's right, yeah.
And I think one big learning I had was like, it doesn't always look like the same outcome or activity.
Like it's not always, oh, I need to speak up more in this context.
Sometimes it's like, maybe I need to not say something, even though I really, really want to, but maybe it'll actually be better or it's like me learning something to not say something in this case.
So it's, again, it's like, it's very much about trying to follow,
that feeling more than it is about being very specific.
I think that's probably one of the things that I learned the most from that year.
Like if you look at my journal, it's like, it's all a very different variety of activities, sometimes conflicting with each other week over week.
I think about like as training a muscle, you know, which is also one of the things I'm doing now in my later years is like actually getting more athletic and doing more sports and things like that.
But yeah, like when I first started, like I couldn't do a single pushup.
Like it's been years since I've been able to do a single pushup and it's not easy to do the first, but after you do the first and like the second,
And the third is slightly easier.
So the distance between them gets easier the more you do.
And I kind of love that feeling.
I remember in Dante's Inferno, there's like a beautiful analogy that like, you know, towards the second half, like eventually...
It's so hard when you're in the pit, but then when you walk yourself up, eventually the higher you go, the faster you go until you're finally flying.
And I just love that analogy because to me, that's how I think about it.
At least in my mind, I'm like, okay, it is hard.
But if I can do more and more of them, when I look back, it's the number of risks that I might be taking now compared to three years or five years ago.
It feels...
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