Julien Baker

Yeah?

Yeah?

Well, we wanted to do the classic nudie suit thing. Got Union Western to make us these.

Well, we wanted to do the classic nudie suit thing. Got Union Western to make us these.

Got a little Tennessee flora and fauna.

Got a little Tennessee flora and fauna.

You might have.

You might have.

No, you're not overthinking it.

No, you're not overthinking it.

Absolutely not. I think Mackenzie and I know a little bit about that firsthand. We were both raised in a religious household and social context and culture. But yeah, I know Mackenzie and I were talking before this and not to diminish our spirituality is important.

Absolutely not. I think Mackenzie and I know a little bit about that firsthand. We were both raised in a religious household and social context and culture. But yeah, I know Mackenzie and I were talking before this and not to diminish our spirituality is important.

You know, I think there's this idea that you talk about a practice of prayer, you're talking about a dogmatic religious belief, but I feel like organized religion is not necessarily the same thing, maybe often gets in the way of pursuit of the divine. You know, I think that's something everybody, every human intuitively yearns for.

You know, I think there's this idea that you talk about a practice of prayer, you're talking about a dogmatic religious belief, but I feel like organized religion is not necessarily the same thing, maybe often gets in the way of pursuit of the divine. You know, I think that's something everybody, every human intuitively yearns for.

I think definitely, you know, as musicians, as people seeking like just justice and fair treatment for ourselves and for you know, the world and being outraged at everything that's happening around us. I think that's a really normal reaction is to idealize like a more utopian or divine destination.

I think definitely, you know, as musicians, as people seeking like just justice and fair treatment for ourselves and for you know, the world and being outraged at everything that's happening around us. I think that's a really normal reaction is to idealize like a more utopian or divine destination.

He could have been my dog.

He could have been my dog.

Yeah.

Yeah.