Jum Wallner

Yeah, and of course there are many areas where governments do this and many areas where they don't.

For example, there was no obligation on governments to say to other workplace asbestos victims, look, you can't quite identify that factory that you worked in 45 years ago as tracing back to James Hardie.

But we'll step in because it's unfair that you're excluded.

You got this disease from some asbestos.

We should take care of you.

So what we were arguing is that those people who you already helped through various statutory schemes have fallen through the cracks.

And this is, it's a bloody big crack.

You know, it's a bigger crack than any of the others that you've helped.

But it is similar to that.

Now, they had a very good counter-argument if they wanted to use it, the government, saying, well, no, we help people who generally are covered by the James Hardy scream, just the odd person here or there.

There's no James Hardy here.

You're asking us to use taxpayer money to fully take care of every victim here.

So there are arguments in favour, arguments against.

Yeah.

I mean, I didn't know what I was getting myself into, really.

So, and I didn't really understand much of it at first, but neither did they, neither did Jum and Bruce.

Yeah.

Look, a couple of people said to me, oh, you should just march.

You've been on television.

You should march down to Canberra and have a meeting with Greg Hunt and get him to, the health minister, sort it out.