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Justin Balding

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
91 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Dateline NBC
Talking Dateline: Raising the Dead

But it's been filed, but it's going to cost a lot of money to pursue.

Dateline NBC
Talking Dateline: Raising the Dead

And then there's a question really about how much money they'll be able to raise in order to pursue the suit.

Dateline NBC
Talking Dateline: Raising the Dead

I had a sense of that too as well, Andrea.

Dateline NBC
Talking Dateline: Raising the Dead

You know, it's so difficult because you have to put yourself in the jury's shoes.

Dateline NBC
Talking Dateline: Raising the Dead

Obviously, what we present is a distilled version of what the jury heard in the court, although we obviously hit all of the major points.

Dateline NBC
Talking Dateline: Raising the Dead

But I think the defense attorneys were very effective in the courtroom at raising reasonable doubt in all aspects, whether it was the DNA, the handprints, and the so-called confession.

Dateline NBC
Talking Dateline: Raising the Dead

I mean, from the prosecution point of view, they were very clear right from the outset that this case was about DNA, a handprint, and a confession, as they saw it, or admissions that Tony Hayes made.

Dateline NBC
Talking Dateline: Raising the Dead

And on the DNA, this happened in a time before there was DNA processing, at least in Wapaka County.

Dateline NBC
Talking Dateline: Raising the Dead

And, you know, over the years, they tested and retested.

Dateline NBC
Talking Dateline: Raising the Dead

But at the same time, the standards for DNA evolved.

Dateline NBC
Talking Dateline: Raising the Dead

I think it's a very good question.

Dateline NBC
Talking Dateline: Raising the Dead

It's something the prosecution feels very strongly about.

Dateline NBC
Talking Dateline: Raising the Dead

They feel like that because they were denied the possibility of presenting Jeff Thiel's DNA evidence, they felt that the defense should not have been able to name Jeff Thiel as a third-party culprit in this case.

Dateline NBC
Talking Dateline: Raising the Dead

They felt that that was unfair and prejudicial.

Dateline NBC
Talking Dateline: Raising the Dead

And I think it's really a question for the judge.

Dateline NBC
Talking Dateline: Raising the Dead

I did speak with one juror.

Dateline NBC
Talking Dateline: Raising the Dead

Actually, I reached out to all the jurors.

Dateline NBC
Talking Dateline: Raising the Dead

One wanted to engage with me and talked about the deliberations and the process of the deliberations and had told me that...

Dateline NBC
Talking Dateline: Raising the Dead

She didn't think that the Jeff Teel DNA would actually have had a big effect on the jury.

Dateline NBC
Talking Dateline: Raising the Dead

That was her point of view.