Justin Balding

They never found answers to how the car caught fire, blew up.

And they also never found who had written that very menacing message on the bathroom stall.

I think this is a really interesting point, and it's something the prosecution obviously hit hard at trial.

What they point to is the fact that Tony Hayes brought this up himself.

It wasn't like the investigators showed him a picture of

of the bedroom with a barbell in it.

It was something he raised.

And then they had, the investigators who were questioning, had to rifle through pictures of the crime scene until they found a picture of the barbell.

And they, wow, this is significant.

Well, thanks a lot for having me on this episode, Andrea.

It's been really interesting speaking with you.