Justin Bourne

But don't give me the fifth position.

assistant general manager because you want that title because it makes you feel better about yourself.

So do you think they want it just so they can turn around and have it on their resume?

But this isn't corporate America.

It's hockey where people can just pick up the phone and say, hey, what did he do in there?

See, it's a loaded, dumb question because all you need to do is semantics.

Just pick up the phone and find out from people that you trust, and this is where your experience comes in.

This is where you know people and go, hey, give me the goods on that guy.

I just... Okay, go ahead.

Yeah.

No, I just... Like, to me...

If you can get Sonny in your organization and you believe in him and you think he was a big part of... I'm all for stealing good people away from other teams, right?

That's good.

But, you know, does he... What's he need?

Does he need the general manager's title?

Can he still come and have more responsibility without getting it?

First of all, there's the ones that if you're going to talk to other ones, are they available?

Do you have to ask for permission on them?

Right?

That's the separation between the two.