Justin Colby

And now Bill Pulte, he runs in government.

He is a government official at this point and running all the things.

That's right.

Freddie and Fannie.

Yeah.

And so funny enough, because of my access with intentional relationships, I was able to get a couple of moments with him.

He's very bullish on what's going on in the state of the marketplace, primarily because the president.

And he says, listen, I'm a home builder.

I know I look at it as an investor.

I look at it as a business owner.

And what will be coming down the pipe is going to be strong for the housing industry.

What's your thoughts while the president's still in here regarding where we stand today?

Because you're a lender, right?

You're at the top of that pyramid for the company.

Your title is what now?

So you know all the meetings.

While we have our president, where do you guys see it going with the meetings that behind closed doors?

Now, how could the normal person go find...

how to watch mortgage-backed securities?

That was a big talking point that we talked about is, you know, so it was specifically, I was with Grant Cardone and, you know, we were really coming into this conversation about that.