Justin Doc Brown

It's a beautiful story if you take their perspective and look at these stories and these narratives within the Bible in their proper context.

Yeah, and I think that's what we're told to do, man.

If you get into Scripture, you know, it says in Proverbs that it is the glory of God to conceal a thing, but it is the glory of kings to search things out.

Jesus taught in parables, right?

So he didn't just come right out and spell it for you.

And even some of the stories he was telling, even his apostles didn't know what he was talking about.

And one of the stories, I can't remember if it was Matthew, but they came back after the sermon and they're like, Rabbi, what was the meaning of this story you told?

So that they didn't even get it.

And Jesus looked at him and he said, I speak to them in parables because to them the mystery has not been given.

But to you the mystery has been given

And still you ask me, Rabbi, Rabbi, what is the meaning of this?

So there's lots of symbolism and lots of esoteric stuff in the Bible that you have to dig and find out.

Is it detrimental to your faith and salvation?

No.

I think he made that stuff so simple a child can understand it.

But for people like me and you, Sean, that want to go deeper, we have to know these things and go digging.

He's planted, I believe, lots of little treasure troves and boxes of treasure with lots of gold nuggets for us to go and seek them.

To me, that's just a perspective, too, and that's something I learned from Timothy Ibarino, too.

You know, he said, we get hung up on verbiage.

I had him on the show a while back and he was talking about that and he said, yeah, he said, God, the devil, angels, demons, all of these things.