Justin LaBar

Now, maybe if the Shades of Grey is transitional, if we're watching the transition of Jacob Batu, who first said...

I want better for my family and my kids.

And then if eventually that bleeds into he's a complete heel and he goes, I want better because I spent years in prison while you were out here.

If he completely transitions into like, okay, he is full-fledged heel.

He don't care about getting things for the right reasons.

Now he just wants to destroy Roman's life.

If we're in a transition, okay, but it is a tough thing.

Shades of Grey could be a powerful tool.

But at the end of the day, in pro wrestling, everybody wants somebody to cheer for, somebody to boo against.

And that's the most understandable, whether you're 10 years old or 80 years old.

Is the argument that there is no answer to that, that there's an attempt that Jacob Fatu is the realest guy in the room...

And again, as real people, we're not always good.

We're not always bad.

There's sometimes our shades of gray.

Is that the argument?

Jacob Fatu doesn't go to a heel dressing room.

He doesn't go to a baby face dressing room.

Jacob Fatu is his own guy.

I mean, you can't do that for everybody.

But if you want to single out one person, I guess you could try to make that one person be the case.