Justin Sylvester

It's old school, new school.

It's old school, new school.

Yeah, it's kind of like they're still they've been around so long.

I think this is a challenge with any show that's been around for a while.

They're not as nimble.

And like it's it's again, I kind of compared it to like, you know, I've always said like, you know, WWE wrestling is really a reality TV show.

It's like one of the OG reality TV shows.

They used to be like, no, it's real.

Like, you know, they used to pretend it was real.

And then at some point I get I'm not a huge fan, but at some point the decision makers stop pretending.

And just kind of like accepted that like everyone was fine with the fact that this is, you know, real ish and their storylines, you know, and you can still root for characters and you can still find yourself in the, you know, and it didn't take anything away from the show.

In fact, it gave them to your point, Justin, a lot more creative freedom.

The only challenge with that would be segue to summer house is when you get an authentic storyline that we're getting from summer house.

And I said this in the top of the show that for whatever, however you feel, wherever you land on this, however you are triggered, do not forget to appreciate what we are witnessing and experience of a fan of reality TV, because this level of authenticity is,

and to watch this back and every fucking moment, every fucking scene is like locked in, put your phone down television.

Like you just like, do not, don't forget that, right?

I have been more on the side of like...

not hyperbolic take things like that.

And, and more like we, we don't need a physical affair to, there still could have just like, I think Lindsay Hubbard said as much, like there was clearly an emotional.

That's what I'm talking about.