Jürgen Klinsmann

And then there were certain goals where I scored maybe in the 80th minute then finally, but I had a bad game.

You worked the shit out of yourself, but it was not really the best game for you.

And I adored that.

I really adored that.

He had a lot of football intelligence in Italia.

Well, enjoying is one thing, and then playing with the best one.

Because over years, I had a very tense relationship with Lothar Matthäus, because character-wise, we were so opposite.

In what way?

You didn't get on with each other?

More an off-the-field kind of...

It started at Inter Milan, then we met up again at Bayern Munich.

So the player I played the most games in my entire career is Lothar Matthäus.

We never realized that, but because we played at Inter together and at Bayern together and national team, he had 150 caps, myself more than 100.

And so we realized, well, we have so much actually in common, but we were going at each other verbally.

Yeah, because we were just so different in the way we looked at life, we looked at things, you know.

But...

Throughout those years, there was such a huge admiration from my end to him.

He was literally in the early 90s.

I would say probably from 88 to 92, 93.

For four or five years, he was the best player on the planet.