Kai Risdahl

Talk to me, would you, about the sort of the macroeconomic environment, right?

Inflation is up and consumers are cranky as they always are.

Is that adding to your woes?

It sounds—we started with me thinking you were doing all right, and now it sounds not great, honestly.

Well, let me take that that side turn, the side hustle turn you just gave me and talk about this other thing you do.

You're an intellectual property attorney, right?

Got it.

So the people own the rights to the music.

Interesting.

So it's a side hustle, but it's very, very parallel, right?

Let me back you up a little bit to some of the things that you're dealing with.

You mentioned people not drinking as much anymore, which is great for society, maybe not as good for your profit margin.

How else are you using this space?

Because I imagine at 10 o'clock on a Tuesday morning, you've got this space.

You've got to figure out how to use it.

Forget just Friday and Saturday nights.

That's not going to do it for you.

Roughly one in three people in these United States to the tune of $100 billion a year participate in the birding industry.

I know.

I was surprised, too.