Kai Rizdahl

Neil and I stopped to talk in the shade.

Neil Richardson, here we are.

Hot, sweaty, five words or less.

What do you think of Ho Chi Minh City so far?

All right, we'll get to the ticking time clock in a minute.

In the last couple of days, we've talked to a handful-ish of people, a little bit more.

What has struck you?

Oh, yeah, I buy that.

you mentioned past present future so the thing that has struck me this whole week uh... i was living and working china thirty years ago parallels between shanghai and beijing of thirty years ago and ho chi minh city of today are stunning both both the physicality right of the slowly growing city center with modern glass buildings to you don't have to get too far out of town in ho chi minh city and and it's very gritty let's say right that's an exact parallel

In 30 years, we're going to come back here and it's going to look like Shanghai and Beijing.

Is it?

Is it really?

All right.

Okay.

And in fact, at least one or two of the people we talked to said that, right?

We have the moment now.

Do you think they can do it?

Do you think they're going to do it?

There's another thing that has to be said, and I don't know if this is going to hold in the month it's going to take this to get on the air, but they all also mentioned policy instability and geopolitical instability.

So that's not nothing.