Kai Wright

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What is the first image that comes to mind, first sort of caricature even that you have when I bring up Richard Pryor?

Yeah.

Well, the thing is though, Emmanuel, you're not wrong.

I snorted cocaine for about 15 years with my dumb ass.

I started off snorting little tiny pinches.

I said, I know I ain't going to get hooked.

I don't know coke, you can't get hooked.

My friends have been snorting 15 years, they ain't hooked.

That's why I was snorting little tiny, didn't even make noise.

Coke etiquette, Jack.

Six months later...

I mean, that is like a meaningful part of what happened in Richard Pryor's life.

You know, I think there's more to that story and particularly the questions around why.

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