Kail Lowry

Okay.

So if someone is pulled over and the cop thinks that they have sufficient reason to search the vehicle, would you suggest that a person is honest with the cop or do you suggest that the cop searches and lets them find whatever they're going to find?

Right, right, right, right.

Okay, that makes sense.

And when someone, say some case makes it to trial, the case makes it to trial and they're on the witness stand.

You have a witness on the witness stand.

Does it automatically make someone look guilty when they invoke their Fifth Amendment?

Yeah.

Why is that?

Because you don't want them to surprise you on the witness stand or what?

And have you ever had a client testify and say, I plead the fifth?

No.

Does that help or hurt a case?

But that's weird to me because the same people who very well may be innocent and they immediately ask for an attorney, because that's what I would do, immediately ask for an attorney, that can also be seen by the court of public opinion, of course.

Court of public opinion, yes.

Right.

So-

it's so interesting to me because it's like, okay, ask for an attorney right away, but then don't ever plead the fifth, right?

So you could be innocent and asking for an attorney, but you could also be innocent or guilty and plead the fifth, but that makes you look guilty and asking for it.

Do you get what I'm saying?