Kalisha Midlani

Correct.

Correct.

Don't spend your time pining over being niche.

Don't spend your time pining over being niche.

Yeah. Gatekeep yourself.

Yeah. Gatekeep yourself.

We're bringing back gatekeeping. Charlie did say at that one private event that she did where she had that quote, it's like, it's hard being ahead. Like she said, there's power. No, no, no. Sorry. It was Hollywood reporter event or something where she goes, you know, there's power in the niche.

We're bringing back gatekeeping. Charlie did say at that one private event that she did where she had that quote, it's like, it's hard being ahead. Like she said, there's power. No, no, no. Sorry. It was Hollywood reporter event or something where she goes, you know, there's power in the niche.

And I think even at the time she was getting so much critical acclaim for Brat, but she still felt like this is niche. This is still a subculture.

And I think even at the time she was getting so much critical acclaim for Brat, but she still felt like this is niche. This is still a subculture.

My favorite thing was she didn't follow the traditional like press mold. Like I loved that she waited to go on SNL because people are like, okay, it's album release. We're going on SNL this week, right?

My favorite thing was she didn't follow the traditional like press mold. Like I loved that she waited to go on SNL because people are like, okay, it's album release. We're going on SNL this week, right?

And she waited so long. I was like, yes, this is cool.

And she waited so long. I was like, yes, this is cool.

One thing I will make very clear on this podcast, I am Dua Lipa's defender. I will defend that girl till the day I die. So let's go.

One thing I will make very clear on this podcast, I am Dua Lipa's defender. I will defend that girl till the day I die. So let's go.

I don't think so. Have you seen the Brit nominations? Come on. I'm sorry Americans did not get radical optimism. You just don't have taste.

I don't think so. Have you seen the Brit nominations? Come on. I'm sorry Americans did not get radical optimism. You just don't have taste.

Sorry, there's an entire Minecraft world for radical optimism. There is. There's totally a world around it. You just don't get it.

Sorry, there's an entire Minecraft world for radical optimism. There is. There's totally a world around it. You just don't get it.