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KallMeKris

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Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

And the most persistent was that the family had deliberately staged their own vanishing to start over somewhere else.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

Costa Rica was the most commonly cited destination.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

And Egbert had apparently mentioned the country to colleagues at work as a kind of fantasy.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

a place where you could start fresh, somewhere warm and far from German family courts.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

So the suggestion was that the road trip had been a cover for a planned disappearance, a way to exit one's life and quietly reenter another beyond the reach of anyone who might come looking.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

And there is a surface logic to this that dissolves under any real examination.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

These four people successfully relocating internationally and faking their own deaths in 1996 would have required false documentation, an established network in their destination country, and enough cash to sustain themselves without triggering some sort of financial trail that Interpol routinely monitors.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

It's not just easy to disappear, even if it was the 90s.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

But these were people who had arrived in the United States short of funds, right?

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

Because they had been unable to get a wire transfer sent to the correct bank branch even, and had been scrambling financially for much of the trip, it seemed.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

And the van's physical condition told its own story.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

Rims ground down from miles of driving on flat tires, an axle buried in the sand.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

That kind of evidence just doesn't really seem staged.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

And the other theories that circulated were less grounded even still, because there was the proximity to Barker Ranch, where Charles Manson and members of his family had been arrested in 1969, located within the Panamint Range, which led some to propose that the family had encountered desert corals.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

cultists, but this required just completely ignoring the fact that Manson's case was 25 years old and the ranch had no active occupants at this point.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

And then there's the government conspiracy angle, suggesting the family had stumbled onto a military secret, circulated without ever cohering into anything that actually engaged with what the evidence at the van site was telling investigators.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

But again, just reaching.