Kara Swisher

I do.

Yep, we do.

I think they're finished.

These cases that are starting to build up, I think people are, it takes, you know, as you know, cigarettes, 20 years.

This is Philip Morris again.

And everybody is like, just a fucking second.

And I think, I know it sounds crazy, but I have so many people now coming up to me after I wrote Burn Book, which at the time, people were like, oh, you're so mean to them.

They're such important innovators.

People come to me now and they're like, you weren't mean enough.

You weren't mean enough, like you weren't tough enough on them.

And I think people are suddenly taking control of themselves, whether it's social media, I think young people are.

My sons, I see, and that's an anecdotal thing, but I see people pushing back across the globe against the tech.

And I think the fact that the technologists put theirs in with Trump was the final moment of, oh, they are the villains, like the Marvel villains.

And I think

I really do think there's a very healthy pushback happening.

I feel positive for the first time that people understand.

I'll tell you, one of the themes in this series I did, the CARES for Strong Sleep Driver, is about the danger of chatbots with kids.

You know I've been talking to the parents and doing interviews with them.

I think the most dangerous thing right now is relationships with AI bots and the sycophantic relationships.

And I'll tell you, I'll do a plot spoiler.