Karen Dempsey

And I won't even presume it's love, you know, some form of love or some form of commitment and togetherness that they're choosing.

We have done that since the dawn of time.

And it hasn't always been allowed.

There's always been people who have maybe wanted to pledge their love and commitment to one another and haven't been allowed by the communities that they're in.

And that still persists now.

But regardless of approval, people have always found a way to find their person and be with their person.

So, to me, that's what I really want to tap into for that couple to really bed it in for them, the beauty and the profundity of what they're doing, but also for their community, that their community is moving from, like there may be people who may maybe know one spouse better or the other spouse better.

Through the ceremony, they're all meeting each other and they're getting to see each person in a different light to what they usually do.

And they're also getting the gift of this beautiful insight into the inner world of this couple.

Because most people don't see them in their inner world as a couple.

They don't know how they actually feel about one another or what it is that they believe their marriage will bring to them.

But through the language of the ceremony and through the vows that they pledge to one another,

And through how they represent their union, everybody there gets to know them in a different light.

Are you okay with that?

100%.

Yes, I am okay with whatever the couple wants.

Once there is meaning to it, once we can find the gravitas as well.

I mean, I can't even imagine this situation really, but if it seems like this is just a performance and there's no gravitas to it at all, I would suggest that maybe I'm not this element for them.

No, I don't think I've ever fully... Oh, well.

Entheos is the organization I run.