Karl Friston

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402 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Sep 2025 last heard Sep 2025

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Um so, you know, just to make this really s really really um concrete, you know, I'm I'm pretty sure that you're conscious.
Pretty sure.
Um, you know, I you know absolutely I can't be a hundred percent sure, but I I could certainly put a sort of base incredible interval around it and you know, uh and it would be all the evidence would be very, very strong with a base factor of say above five.
What about um a microbe living in your gut?
You know, I'm not so sure.
It might be some h you know, in some sort of panpsychic or some very elemental sense.
Um but now my confidence in the inference that the microbe is conscious um is sufficiently small that I have no qualms about poisoning it with antibiotics.
Whereas I would have great qualms about poisoning you, because you are sufficiently like me to
To provide enough evidence that you might be conscious l you know l like like like I am.
So I think um I wouldn't decry mimicry.
You know, mimicry is just um reproducing the kind of evidence that that satisfies a particular hypothesis.
That is the basis of inference.
Um so to if you are sufficiently good mimic, then you're to all intents and purposes, under
the um condition that you could only infer something is conscious, uh yes, it it would be conscious.
Yes.
Just to pick up um and reinforce or reiterate a a couple of key points.
So the first is um this acknowledgement that we are using homology as the basis of the evidence that we assimilate when making a decision about whether you
you or some artifact is is conscious.
Mark articulated that in terms of the scientific process.
He deferred to Popper.
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