Kat Van Buren

Yeah, and I liked what you said earlier when we were talking about how sometimes when you hear what you said repeated back to you, even if it's right, hearing it can help you be like, wait, is that what I meant to say?

Oh, yeah.

Kat and I were talking about this, and we were eating lunch before we were recording.

So that was something that came up for me in the exercise.

My ex-husband would say it back to me exactly how I said it, but then I, hearing it back, was like, oh –

wait, let me rework that because you did your part right, but now that I'm hearing it back, I need to say it differently.

So there's that.

It just gives you opportunity, both of you, to really hear and listen.

So I don't know if I explained that like a toddler or like I was talking to a toddler, but if your partner is willing to sit down and do that when y'all have to have conversations, it can be very helpful.

And then you don't have to be so dramatic about it.

Like the more you do it,

then you can just casually, like it could even be you're on a phone call and your partner is saying something and you're like, okay, so what I'm hearing you say is, and you repeat it back and they're like, yes or no.

And then you move.

It doesn't have to be this dramatic sit down where you're like, okay, so what I'm hearing you say.

Yeah.

I always say these kinds of conversations don't have to be like a come to Jesus.

They can become normal parts of your life, how you communicate this way.

Yeah.

You'll start to get used to it.

Like it'll become second nature.