Kate Campbell

He treats books so badly and he scribbles all over them with books.

All we have is the here and now.

All right.

Evan, I think it's your turn.

It's probably on a lot of people's bookshelves, the book you're about to mention.

You can learn a lot just from the titles of these books alone, I reckon.

What about this one?

Okay, this is a book I probably read two years ago, but I thought it was worth a mention.

It's called A Hype by Gabrielle Bluestone.

She was a journalist and also involved with all the research for the Netflix doco on the Fyre Fest.

And she's done a lot of research into...

Scammers, financial frauds, not always finance, but most frauds involve some form of money, I think.

Yeah.

So, I just think this is an important book to read as a reminder.

Anything about whether you read a podcast or watch a Netflix doco, I think once a year reminding yourself that even very smart people get scammed, even very smart people fall for frauds, and it's a good way to –

Maybe just check your beliefs about things because you don't want to fall prey to a scam or a fraud.

There's things going around all the time.

You get the texts from Commonwealth Bank, like log into your account when it's really from a fake number.

You're going to get emails.

Your data might get leaked.