Kate Ceberano

Right.

Like, for instance...

I think it would be a disservice to women of my age to stop performing now.

But I did see it.

Like, let's talk because you've,

interviewed Madonna which I've always rated like I have asked you always and tell me like a fireside fireside chat with Kate Langbrook tell me more about it and what was she wearing and what did she say and she liked you because she's an instinctive animal who knows another one who's like her is in the field and on the field she knew you didn't she above and beyond the thousands she does seem to

You must also have.

You do.

You cast like you would have film the people with whom you want to be like or seen like or rub shoulders with or at least have within your sights so that you can measure one another up and come up to, like for instance, she was probably looking at you going, okay, what classy questions could you ask me that that person just did, that they failed to get the goods because she stopped with you for a bit and actually gave you her time, didn't she?

Yeah.

I don't want you to talk about Madonna.

Well, okay.

Okay.

But we are of an age now where we put down those ridiculous kind of adversities.

I've claimed them.

I don't.

It's kind of been almost a joke now and that's why my girlfriend said to me, she said, oh, quit with the old bugbear.

You know, like it's not even yours about whatever, about being the marginalised other.

Yes.

Good.