Kate Darling

But they must have poured so much investment into this.

And why is it so bad?

There's got to be a reason.

There's got to be some thinking behind it, right?

And suddenly people are like, oh, you're annoying, but you're definitely a social agent.

I think the killing of the creativity is in the whole, like, okay.

So what I know from social robotics is like, obviously if you create agents that, okay, so take for an example, you'd create a robot that looks like a humanoid and it's, you know, Sophia or whatever, right?

Now, suddenly, you do have all of these issues where are you reinforcing an unrealistic beauty standard?

Are you objectifying women?

Why is the robot white?

But the thing is, I think that with creativity...

You can find a solution that's even better where you're not even harming anyone and you're creating a robot that looks like not humanoid, but like something that people relate to even more.

And now you don't even have any of these bias issues that you're creating.

And so how do we create that within companies?

Because I don't think it's really about...

Because maybe we disagree on that.

I don't think that edginess or humor or interesting things need to be things that harm or hurt people or that people are against.

There are ways to find things that everyone is fine with.

Why aren't we doing that?

I do think you're right that there's a lot of aversion to risk.