Kate McCarthy

Look at the history, Jay.

Every year at this point, everyone says, no, they're not as good as they were last year.

And every year they say, we'll make the grand final and potentially win it.

September specialists.

Yeah, it's a great call.

And he's had to shoulder so much of the load in that forward line and still consistently kick big bags of goals and do it week after week.

Yeah, I couldn't agree more with you, Izzy.

Stay retired and you won't lose.

What's happening there?

I don't know either.

I'm not sure.

Yeah, I like that they've kept it with Carlton people.

That makes sense.

They know the club the best.

They know what maybe didn't work last time.

They know what direction they might want to go in.

So that makes complete sense in getting an external stockbroker in to tell you how they did it well at this club that has nothing to do with that club.

Is Hurdy interested in Carlton?

I don't know, just the vibe that I sort of get from Chris Fagan as a person.

I don't think he would want to stand in the way of someone doing something like that, despite it then being his obviously ultimate succession is to take over that team.