Kate Shaw
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard 15 Sep
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underlying substantive legality.
And maybe this ends up the same way.
Maybe they get a short-term procedural win.
They ultimately lose on the substance.
But just as having this uncertainty out there with respect to the meaning of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, I think did real damage in even more concrete terms here.
Like the protracted uncertainty has real costs.
And so I just, it makes me very nervous to hear you say like, yeah, the administration might
notch a short-term victory here.
And so, you know, I think that it would be crazy for them to win at all.
And I think it's really, I guess, important for us to underscore the two things.
One, the court should be criticized forcefully if it allows even a week or two of implementation.
I mean, not, again, rulemaking implementation.
It's not that the states have to do anything immediately, but they do have to engage in readiness immediately.
So that that's
something that we should criticize forcefully, but also understand that that does not mean ultimately that this executive order actually goes into effect.
Totally.
And one more thing, just as a former White House lawyer, can I just say that as consistent with existing law or that kind of thing is like pro forma for executive orders.
Exactly.
That they're going to pull back on like the full maximalist implementation of what they're trying to do.
Like that's just always in the orders.
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