Kate

Okay.

Okay.

So this is really good because you guys can sort of vibe with Kev and I'm sort of like in the Zoe place because Zoe says to him, she goes, why are you helping me? And he's like, I'm a curious person and I'm trying not to underestimate people. Right? That's what she says.

So this is really good because you guys can sort of vibe with Kev and I'm sort of like in the Zoe place because Zoe says to him, she goes, why are you helping me? And he's like, I'm a curious person and I'm trying not to underestimate people. Right? That's what she says.

So this is really good because you guys can sort of vibe with Kev and I'm sort of like in the Zoe place because Zoe says to him, she goes, why are you helping me? And he's like, I'm a curious person and I'm trying not to underestimate people. Right? That's what she says.

Something to that extent.

Something to that extent.

Something to that extent.

I do, too.

I do, too.

I do, too.

I trust Beth, too. But I also had the feeling that, like, while her motives for going in the first place were to meet Terry Gross, Something uncovered. Like in terms of the through line from last week in terms of why doesn't anybody take me seriously? I think we're seeing Zoe begin to take him seriously. He didn't charm himself out of the question.

I trust Beth, too. But I also had the feeling that, like, while her motives for going in the first place were to meet Terry Gross, Something uncovered. Like in terms of the through line from last week in terms of why doesn't anybody take me seriously? I think we're seeing Zoe begin to take him seriously. He didn't charm himself out of the question.

I trust Beth, too. But I also had the feeling that, like, while her motives for going in the first place were to meet Terry Gross, Something uncovered. Like in terms of the through line from last week in terms of why doesn't anybody take me seriously? I think we're seeing Zoe begin to take him seriously. He didn't charm himself out of the question.

He actually got stuck in a thought and realized I don't have an answer. I think she was intrigued by that.

He actually got stuck in a thought and realized I don't have an answer. I think she was intrigued by that.

He actually got stuck in a thought and realized I don't have an answer. I think she was intrigued by that.

That's how she operates. So now my job is to excavate and figure out what's happening in that whole thing. It's another good episode to tell.

That's how she operates. So now my job is to excavate and figure out what's happening in that whole thing. It's another good episode to tell.

That's how she operates. So now my job is to excavate and figure out what's happening in that whole thing. It's another good episode to tell.