Katherine Long

His company, Duoyi Network, makes fantasy multiplayer games.

In China, he's a bit of a recluse.

He rarely gives interviews.

He hasn't been photographed in public for years.

And he's known as kind of an online mega poster.

The tone of a lot of his posts is pretty inflammatory and oftentimes very misogynistic.

To use an example from the Weibo account of his company, they put out a statement saying that they would welcome applications from people whose careers have been harmed by their rejection of feminism.

Well, accounts linked to him have posted pretty prolifically about his goal of having a large number of children.

At one point, an account linked to him said that Shubo wanted to have 50 high-quality sons.

At another point, accounts linked to him have praised Elon Musk's large family and expressed a desire to have children with Elon Musk, although the account said, well...

Since I can't do that, we're both men, I guess I'll just have to settle for having grandchildren with him.

I guess implying that their children would, you know, at some point, get together.

it kind of threw the legal fate of these children into limbo to a certain degree.

Without an order of parentage, it's not entirely clear who is in charge of the children once they're born.

And typically in that case, according to experts in the space that we spoke to, the children might end up in the custody of social services or possibly at a certain point in foster care.

Yeah, that's right.

I mean, it was truly, this is not something that happens nearly ever in surrogacy proceedings.

We weren't able to reach any of the surrogates.

I can only guess how alarmed they might have been if they were aware of this reversal.

And that revelation...