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Katherine Morgan Schafler

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
381 total appearances

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Passion Struck with John R. Miles
Katherine Morgan Schafler on Control, Perfectionism, and Letting Go | EP 572

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Passion Struck with John R. Miles
Katherine Morgan Schafler on Control, Perfectionism, and Letting Go | EP 572

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Passion Struck with John R. Miles
Katherine Morgan Schafler on Control, Perfectionism, and Letting Go | EP 572

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Passion Struck with John R. Miles
Katherine Morgan Schafler on Control, Perfectionism, and Letting Go | EP 572

Sure, thank you for reading that. So these stories are fictionalized because they're not my stories to tell. I don't talk about my clients' lives in the book, but they are generated from the sort of kernel of truth and dynamic that appears all the time in my work. And so when I worked in a rehab as a group counselor,

Passion Struck with John R. Miles
Katherine Morgan Schafler on Control, Perfectionism, and Letting Go | EP 572

Sure, thank you for reading that. So these stories are fictionalized because they're not my stories to tell. I don't talk about my clients' lives in the book, but they are generated from the sort of kernel of truth and dynamic that appears all the time in my work. And so when I worked in a rehab as a group counselor,

Passion Struck with John R. Miles
Katherine Morgan Schafler on Control, Perfectionism, and Letting Go | EP 572

Sure, thank you for reading that. So these stories are fictionalized because they're not my stories to tell. I don't talk about my clients' lives in the book, but they are generated from the sort of kernel of truth and dynamic that appears all the time in my work. And so when I worked in a rehab as a group counselor,

Passion Struck with John R. Miles
Katherine Morgan Schafler on Control, Perfectionism, and Letting Go | EP 572

it was not that uncommon for someone to show up to therapy intoxicated or under the influence, especially because a lot of my work was in early recovery. And so Ava is this client who at the end of our group, I typically have people go around in a circle and say something that they heard someone else say that stuck with them.

Passion Struck with John R. Miles
Katherine Morgan Schafler on Control, Perfectionism, and Letting Go | EP 572

it was not that uncommon for someone to show up to therapy intoxicated or under the influence, especially because a lot of my work was in early recovery. And so Ava is this client who at the end of our group, I typically have people go around in a circle and say something that they heard someone else say that stuck with them.

Passion Struck with John R. Miles
Katherine Morgan Schafler on Control, Perfectionism, and Letting Go | EP 572

it was not that uncommon for someone to show up to therapy intoxicated or under the influence, especially because a lot of my work was in early recovery. And so Ava is this client who at the end of our group, I typically have people go around in a circle and say something that they heard someone else say that stuck with them.

Passion Struck with John R. Miles
Katherine Morgan Schafler on Control, Perfectionism, and Letting Go | EP 572

And Ava, she let go of that and just confessed to the group that she was intoxicated. She was drinking before group and she plans on getting intoxicated more after group. And this is what's called in the therapy world, a last minute bomb. It's when... It's when your client says something very important or otherwise urgent when there is no time for you to discuss this thing.

Passion Struck with John R. Miles
Katherine Morgan Schafler on Control, Perfectionism, and Letting Go | EP 572

And Ava, she let go of that and just confessed to the group that she was intoxicated. She was drinking before group and she plans on getting intoxicated more after group. And this is what's called in the therapy world, a last minute bomb. It's when... It's when your client says something very important or otherwise urgent when there is no time for you to discuss this thing.

Passion Struck with John R. Miles
Katherine Morgan Schafler on Control, Perfectionism, and Letting Go | EP 572

And Ava, she let go of that and just confessed to the group that she was intoxicated. She was drinking before group and she plans on getting intoxicated more after group. And this is what's called in the therapy world, a last minute bomb. It's when... It's when your client says something very important or otherwise urgent when there is no time for you to discuss this thing.

Passion Struck with John R. Miles
Katherine Morgan Schafler on Control, Perfectionism, and Letting Go | EP 572

And it happens all the time. And I see it as a really healthy gesture because it's like, I really want to talk to you about this, but I'm too scared to do anything other than bring it up. And usually it's like the therapist brings it up at the next session and it's productive. In this case, I asked everyone to leave and for Ava to stay and she knows what she needs to do and what she needs to do.

Passion Struck with John R. Miles
Katherine Morgan Schafler on Control, Perfectionism, and Letting Go | EP 572

And it happens all the time. And I see it as a really healthy gesture because it's like, I really want to talk to you about this, but I'm too scared to do anything other than bring it up. And usually it's like the therapist brings it up at the next session and it's productive. In this case, I asked everyone to leave and for Ava to stay and she knows what she needs to do and what she needs to do.

Passion Struck with John R. Miles
Katherine Morgan Schafler on Control, Perfectionism, and Letting Go | EP 572

And it happens all the time. And I see it as a really healthy gesture because it's like, I really want to talk to you about this, but I'm too scared to do anything other than bring it up. And usually it's like the therapist brings it up at the next session and it's productive. In this case, I asked everyone to leave and for Ava to stay and she knows what she needs to do and what she needs to do.

Passion Struck with John R. Miles
Katherine Morgan Schafler on Control, Perfectionism, and Letting Go | EP 572

And what all she wants to do is to take a hot bath. She just wants to go home. Her house is a 15 minute walk away from the rehab center. And she just wants to take a hot bath. But she doesn't feel entitled to do that because in her view, she effed everything up.

Passion Struck with John R. Miles
Katherine Morgan Schafler on Control, Perfectionism, and Letting Go | EP 572

And what all she wants to do is to take a hot bath. She just wants to go home. Her house is a 15 minute walk away from the rehab center. And she just wants to take a hot bath. But she doesn't feel entitled to do that because in her view, she effed everything up.

Passion Struck with John R. Miles
Katherine Morgan Schafler on Control, Perfectionism, and Letting Go | EP 572

And what all she wants to do is to take a hot bath. She just wants to go home. Her house is a 15 minute walk away from the rehab center. And she just wants to take a hot bath. But she doesn't feel entitled to do that because in her view, she effed everything up.

Passion Struck with John R. Miles
Katherine Morgan Schafler on Control, Perfectionism, and Letting Go | EP 572

And so she's going to go out and drink more because she is in this mentality of I already ruined it, you know, so I don't deserve to do the thing that a healthy person would do. And I said, sometimes what I ask people when they make a mistake in recovering and they have a relapse is like, what would you do in this moment if you were five years sober?

Passion Struck with John R. Miles
Katherine Morgan Schafler on Control, Perfectionism, and Letting Go | EP 572

And so she's going to go out and drink more because she is in this mentality of I already ruined it, you know, so I don't deserve to do the thing that a healthy person would do. And I said, sometimes what I ask people when they make a mistake in recovering and they have a relapse is like, what would you do in this moment if you were five years sober?