Katherine Morgan Schafler

Yes. Well, thank you so much for having me and sharing your hard one platform with me. You're so easy to talk to. I loved this. And I also wish we had another, I'm going to call it three hours.

Yes. Well, thank you so much for having me and sharing your hard one platform with me. You're so easy to talk to. I loved this. And I also wish we had another, I'm going to call it three hours.

Yes. Well, thank you so much for having me and sharing your hard one platform with me. You're so easy to talk to. I loved this. And I also wish we had another, I'm going to call it three hours.

I can, you know, I think reading a book by a therapist and going to actual therapy are very different things, but I tried my best to punch like two years of therapy into a book of universal themes that whether you identify as a perfectionist or not, like, they're going to be salient for you in some way. At least they have been for me in my life.

I can, you know, I think reading a book by a therapist and going to actual therapy are very different things, but I tried my best to punch like two years of therapy into a book of universal themes that whether you identify as a perfectionist or not, like, they're going to be salient for you in some way. At least they have been for me in my life.

I can, you know, I think reading a book by a therapist and going to actual therapy are very different things, but I tried my best to punch like two years of therapy into a book of universal themes that whether you identify as a perfectionist or not, like, they're going to be salient for you in some way. At least they have been for me in my life.

And the whole book is really like a container space for myself. It's like a ringing bell for me to help remember the things that I know. I feel like so much of our personal work, you could tell me if you disagree or not, is like just 90% of the work is just remembering what you know. You know what I mean? But we can fall into these moments of amnesia when it comes to this stuff.

And the whole book is really like a container space for myself. It's like a ringing bell for me to help remember the things that I know. I feel like so much of our personal work, you could tell me if you disagree or not, is like just 90% of the work is just remembering what you know. You know what I mean? But we can fall into these moments of amnesia when it comes to this stuff.

And the whole book is really like a container space for myself. It's like a ringing bell for me to help remember the things that I know. I feel like so much of our personal work, you could tell me if you disagree or not, is like just 90% of the work is just remembering what you know. You know what I mean? But we can fall into these moments of amnesia when it comes to this stuff.

You can find me at my website, kathrynmorganschaffler.com. I'm also on Instagram at kathrynmorganschaffler. And you can take a quiz, a fun, not empirically validated one minute online personality quiz to find out what your perfectionist profile is at perfectionistguide.com or in any of the other places I just said.

You can find me at my website, kathrynmorganschaffler.com. I'm also on Instagram at kathrynmorganschaffler. And you can take a quiz, a fun, not empirically validated one minute online personality quiz to find out what your perfectionist profile is at perfectionistguide.com or in any of the other places I just said.

You can find me at my website, kathrynmorganschaffler.com. I'm also on Instagram at kathrynmorganschaffler. And you can take a quiz, a fun, not empirically validated one minute online personality quiz to find out what your perfectionist profile is at perfectionistguide.com or in any of the other places I just said.

And the book is called The Perfectionist's Guide to Losing Control, A Path to Peace and Power. And it's available in hardcover, paperback, on Audible, at all the places that you can buy all the books. So thank you so much again for having me. I loved this conversation.

And the book is called The Perfectionist's Guide to Losing Control, A Path to Peace and Power. And it's available in hardcover, paperback, on Audible, at all the places that you can buy all the books. So thank you so much again for having me. I loved this conversation.

And the book is called The Perfectionist's Guide to Losing Control, A Path to Peace and Power. And it's available in hardcover, paperback, on Audible, at all the places that you can buy all the books. So thank you so much again for having me. I loved this conversation.

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My pleasure. Thank you.

My pleasure. Thank you.