Kathleen Hickman

That is more prominent, but it's becoming more and more in many of the ASCs.

Well, I think creating this space in your ASC, and if you're a new build, you can also plan ahead to have that availability in terms of the space to do some of these.

Total joints do require a lot of room.

So we actually just built our ASC two years ago.

We were in a prior location for over 20 years, and we built with the future in mind.

So we know that we can add total joints at any time.

We have a 23-hour stay room as well.

I think maybe ASCs just need to be prepared.

I think we have to know how to recruit.

We need to know what our market is around us to see who these providers are.

Are there surgeons in the area that are able to move into the setting of an ASC?

So I think it's knowing your players, your market,

the learning curve for your staff.

Get those people prepared ahead of time.

Talk about doing some of those minor ASC cardiac procedures if it's going to come to fruition.

Let them know ahead of time how we're going to do this.

Understand the technology.

Look at the cost for getting that and what is the reimbursement.

Make sure that we're prepared to understand how much it will cost us to bring these cases in.

What's the return on investment?