Kathryn VanArendonk

And that list included this show and The Morning Show and C, a truly abominable series.

Yeah.

And it really was like, do they not know how to make television?

Could they not pay someone to figure out?

I mean, Morning Show figured itself out eventually, but that early season is not what works about that show now.

And it was really laden with weird Me Too things.

And I watched...

the beginning of For All Mankind and loved the production values, love, you know, I'm a big sucker for we're doing interesting time period, like alternate history things.

I love the, or counter histories where you,

One thing changes and then you watch all of the different things unfurl.

And the one thing that changes here is that the Russians beat the Americans to the moon.

And also the Russians have ladies that they send to space.

Yes.

Yes.

And –

It was really compelling.

Like the idea of it always gripped me more than the execution did for those first several episodes.

And then I got to the end of the first season and it did that Ron Moore thing where it was like, I'm going to kill some of these people.

I'm going to kill some of the people you liked.

And it's going to suddenly you're going to be looking around and being like, I don't know who put these stakes in, but they're here now.