Kathryn VanArendonk

It tracks.

A hundred percent, which includes, alas, the amount of rape that drives plot lines in that show.

And the books were, they're one of those really incredible acts of like,

Dana Gobbledon, who wrote the books, the first one is an early 90s publication.

She was so busy.

Like, you're operating in such a fever dream of, like, these are all the things I like, and I'm just going to put them together in the same book, that it's like no one told you you're not supposed to do it this way.

It's really kind of how those books came into being.

And there's something really remarkable about the legacy that they have had and I think the way that they are –

interesting and important precursors to a lot of the big romantic waves that are happening in publishing right now.

But, like, you look at Outlander and you see her windswept hair and you see her sort of standing with the stones and he's got the kilt and you're like, I understand what that show is and the art looks like

romance, like, clinch covers of romance books, I see The Highlander.

Whereas, for all mankind, like, the reason I and most TV critics first encountered it was like, Apple's gonna make TV shows?

The computer company will be making content?

What will it be like?

And it was one of those early wave Apple shows.

It's

I'm putting an asterisk next to sugar right now.

Who made these choices?

But yeah, that I think, it's not that surprising to me that despite Ron Moore being a part of them, that they would have such different audiences.

My big thing about why these shows are,