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Kathy Lord

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
39 total appearances

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The Daily
The Autism Diagnosis Problem

I think I like the kids.

The Daily
The Autism Diagnosis Problem

I just thought they're so interesting.

The Daily
The Autism Diagnosis Problem

The kids that I saw then, we assumed they were not verbal.

The Daily
The Autism Diagnosis Problem

We assumed they couldn't talk.

The Daily
The Autism Diagnosis Problem

They did not look at us.

The Daily
The Autism Diagnosis Problem

We didn't understand why would a child be moving their fingers in an unusual way like starfish?

The Daily
The Autism Diagnosis Problem

Or why were they upset when someone put something down in a place that they hadn't expected it to be?

The Daily
The Autism Diagnosis Problem

Originally, it was both considered childhood schizophrenia or infantile psychosis.

The Daily
The Autism Diagnosis Problem

I think part of it is that we use the term psychosis when people do things that we don't understand.

The Daily
The Autism Diagnosis Problem

And live your life because they'll never be able to do anything, which is not true.

The Daily
The Autism Diagnosis Problem

But that is what people were telling them.

The Daily
The Autism Diagnosis Problem

How do I both adjust the world around them, but also how do I give them tools, for example, to communicate that would allow them to learn?

The Daily
The Autism Diagnosis Problem

We were thinking that, wait a minute, there are people that don't have language delays, but who actually have some of the same social difficulties that autistic kids have.

The Daily
The Autism Diagnosis Problem

And I think also people were more aware that cognitive disabilities like intellectual disabilities are a feature, but they're not always there for autism.

The Daily
The Autism Diagnosis Problem

Not everybody with autism has an intellectual disability.

The Daily
The Autism Diagnosis Problem

We then said, wait a minute, we need to make this broader.

The Daily
The Autism Diagnosis Problem

We did a study where thousands of kids were seen and all given the same diagnostic battery.

The Daily
The Autism Diagnosis Problem

clinic in the Midwest would say somebody had autism and a clinic in the East Coast would say they had Asperger's.

The Daily
The Autism Diagnosis Problem

It was very confusing and resulted in kids who often, over a lifetime, might get an autism diagnosis, then an Asperger's diagnosis, and then sometimes have to come back to an autism diagnosis.

The Daily
The Autism Diagnosis Problem

So it really seemed like scientifically, this is not useful.

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