Kathy Sheridan

Sort of.

Katrina, what I think is interesting is you were very much on your academic path at that stage.

You were seeing therapists, several of whom were very, very good and answered the need of that particular moment, which is never a guarantee because you can find dreadful therapists too.

I know.

Yes.

So you had things were going in your favor.

Before we hit Turkey again, in the meantime, technology had advanced enormous strides.

The weight loss injections.

Were they not the answer to everything?

I think that what people need to read in this book, among many other things, is about how your body responded to the gastric sleeve, which you did get in Turkey, and which is a remarkable chapter.

I doubt if this has ever been written down in such detail.

No, that's OK.

The sleeve came first.

Yeah, the sleeve was in Turkey, the band was in Ireland.

It is.

Your body's response to that is absolutely horrific.

Yeah.

And I don't know if that's normal or if you had a particularly terrible reaction to it.

Yeah.

You talk about how living in the grip of the fat girl algorithm, the befores and afters, which we all see on Instagram, and it is a shocking state of affairs.