Kati Morton

How are you doing?

Again, because my well-being mattered to them.

And that was so necessary at the time.

It was so soothing, so life affirming.

And we can't discredit it.

So I love that anti-matter because we need to matter to people.

It's part of our biology.

Yes, I agree with you there.

I think to back to the mattering that we have to matter.

I think there's a big piece that we've learned.

If you look at research about how things operate well in a business setting, people need to be rewarded and they need to feel appreciated for their effort.

Like you said, it felt like nobody cared.

Just like a cog in a wheel.

And as long as you do your thing, that's not fulfilling.

And I did a bunch of research.

This is probably.

oh god 2017 maybe about burnout in particular and what i learned through that was that when we put in a ton of effort like you're doing these hundred hour weeks the effort that we put in has to be at least commensurate with the reward that we get and people always think oh reward is just so i make a good paycheck that's only a part of it we have to feel fulfilled we have to feel like people appreciate it and we often forget about that piece of reward

obviously if we're not getting paid well for our job, the reward is going to be down, but there's these other elements to it.

Think of stay at home mothers.

The reward isn't financial.