Kati Morton

And for other people, it might be more of the perfectionism type of thing or it can show up in totally different ways for different people.

That's why that first step is figuring out how it shows up for you.

It's a tough, it sounds obvious.

I should be able to just stop, but it's not just about that.

It's like an inner belief.

And when we try to shift beliefs about ourself, it's more than just the symptoms.

I mean, the first like knee-jerk answer to like, why don't I just stop is because it feels uncomfortable and because I don't think about it.

It's a knee-jerk reaction.

But deeper than that, it's,

And I talk to my patients all the time about this.

I'm like, in order to stop this outside symptom, right?

I like to think of our issues as kind of like trees.

And for me to just stop saying sorry would be like trimming some leaves off of the end.

But that doesn't actually eradicate the tree or get rid of this problem.

It just trims a little bit of it, but there's still a lot there.

And so in order for me to actually be able to stop saying sorry when I don't mean to and to be like, you can take up space, Katie.

This is ridiculous.

I have to get to the root.

I have to figure out where it comes from.

And the truth for me, I mean, this is like kind of spoilers for the book, but not really, because it's every person's on their own journey.