Katie Barclay
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first heard Aug 2026
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And so we have this kind of, on the one hand, our modern reading of this kind of uncomfortable story, but we've also got these kisses that happen in this context of these two people who just have this real intellectually rich, shared relationship, and there's a quality of that.
And so perhaps the age difference in his teaching relationship, which he does to get to her, is perhaps distracts from the quality that she wants to see in it.
She rejects the idea that he suggests to her.
And from the pluses, the things he got out of that relationship, which were much more than kisses, but the kisses are quite famous.
Yeah, so we start off, so there's some Roman examples.
Catalyst has some kiss poetry.
Kiss poetry is just poetry about kissing, right?
That's the main theme of the poem.
And so sometimes it's just kind of sexy lovers doing lovely things and then, but with a long description of the kiss part.
And in quite a lot of these poems, the kiss is a pretty loose metaphor for sex, right?
So you're kind of, there's orgasming and things going on here that really you're thinking, that's a very good kiss.
Maybe it was a very good kiss.
No, but I think actually the kiss allowed people to talk about sex without having to say that in a context where it wouldn't have really been appropriate to write poems about having sex with people.
So the kiss is a place for lovers to talk about their love, to talk about the physical manifestation of that love.
But one of the ways they tend to do this is they tend to go,
Oh, I lick your lickingly lips and I kiss your kissingly... And there's lots of silly rhymes, but there's also this kind of sense of all these very descriptive words for kisses that become a little bit ridiculous.
And so eventually people start writing ridiculous kissing poetry because they're just like, these poems are just so bad, basically.
they're all actually sometimes are great but they just they see the humour and so you get these I kiss you a thousand times, I kiss you a thousand thousand times, I kiss you a thousand million times and so they're making fun of the number of kisses but they're also making fun of the descriptive words and they're putting all together in one poem so where it might have been one line in a more romantic poem
it is now lots of them put together in one poem and so we're just having these very ridiculous stories of us cases of kisses and which are quite funny and a bit you know juvenile but actually really captured what the genre was doing in a very a much more serious way and kind of we knew what they were kind of making fun of i guess
Well, yeah, exactly.
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