Katie Byrne

I think they're very normal.

They're very relatable.

It's kind of a relaxed and funny presenting style.

Easy listening.

Some of the people in my life that I know that listen to them are at least familiar with them.

I know people my own age and younger.

I know people that are a lot older than me who would talk about the two Johnnies in positive terms.

I'm from outside of the Dublin bubble, but I'm a bit of a townie as well.

But also someone who grew up in the GAA and kind of grew up around a lot of rural people and I'm friends with a lot of rural people.

I think there's just a sense that fair play to two lads from Tipperary who were able to do this one thing that I hear a lot of people say is that whatever about how you feel about the content or whether it's any good but they came from outside of that media bubble they didn't have any connections to anybody and you have to praise them for that kind of a sentiment of they're not my cup of tea but good luck to them.

I think in a way it probably is unsophisticated.

Whether you want to use that as a criticism of them or not is another thing.

And I think a lot of people might listen to the two Johnnies and not have that lived experience, not have that kind of connection and relatability to them and just roll their eyes and think this is all a bit ridiculous.

And I think that style of humor as well, it probably is a little bit tired at this stage.

It's kind of been in the media landscape, I think, for a very long time.

And I think it probably predates the two Johnnies as well.

So maybe it is a little bit tired, but also I think they have, to be fair, evolved beyond that as well.

Like they do use their podcast to sometimes talk about things that are a lot more serious.

They'll talk about maybe something about male mental health.

something about drug use or addiction or something like that the last general election cycle they had Simon Harris on and he was the Taoiseach at the time so there's a lot to be said for having that type of a platform and just having the pull to be able to get a major political figure in the country on the podcast and you can understand why from their perspective as well because