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Katie Phang

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The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1037: Katie Phang and Greg Casar: Trump & Co Are the Real Flag Burners

So in light of that, I mean, I'm kind of wondering why we're not hearing more from our Republican members of Congress when they're seeing all of this bad stuff taking place, like the noncompliance by the administration when it comes to the Supreme Court's ruling on Kilmar, Obrego, Garcia, etc. We're not seeing enough screaming from the rafters about noncompliance from the GOP right now.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1037: Katie Phang and Greg Casar: Trump & Co Are the Real Flag Burners

It's two words. It's political retribution. Three words. Illegal political retribution is what it is. So yeah, kudos to Mark Saeed. He is being represented by Abby Lowell, who we know left his firm to be able to go out on his own, to be able to represent people that are being targeted by the Trump administration.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1037: Katie Phang and Greg Casar: Trump & Co Are the Real Flag Burners

It's two words. It's political retribution. Three words. Illegal political retribution is what it is. So yeah, kudos to Mark Saeed. He is being represented by Abby Lowell, who we know left his firm to be able to go out on his own, to be able to represent people that are being targeted by the Trump administration.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1037: Katie Phang and Greg Casar: Trump & Co Are the Real Flag Burners

It's two words. It's political retribution. Three words. Illegal political retribution is what it is. So yeah, kudos to Mark Saeed. He is being represented by Abby Lowell, who we know left his firm to be able to go out on his own, to be able to represent people that are being targeted by the Trump administration.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1037: Katie Phang and Greg Casar: Trump & Co Are the Real Flag Burners

He's also working with Norm Eisen, whom I've joined up with at State Democracy Defenders Fund to be able to litigate this case. Yeah, Mark is suing the Trump administration, the executive and federal I think four or five federal agencies. Why? Because he and 15 other people basically got their security clearances revoked for no reason whatsoever. But there is a reason.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1037: Katie Phang and Greg Casar: Trump & Co Are the Real Flag Burners

He's also working with Norm Eisen, whom I've joined up with at State Democracy Defenders Fund to be able to litigate this case. Yeah, Mark is suing the Trump administration, the executive and federal I think four or five federal agencies. Why? Because he and 15 other people basically got their security clearances revoked for no reason whatsoever. But there is a reason.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1037: Katie Phang and Greg Casar: Trump & Co Are the Real Flag Burners

He's also working with Norm Eisen, whom I've joined up with at State Democracy Defenders Fund to be able to litigate this case. Yeah, Mark is suing the Trump administration, the executive and federal I think four or five federal agencies. Why? Because he and 15 other people basically got their security clearances revoked for no reason whatsoever. But there is a reason.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1037: Katie Phang and Greg Casar: Trump & Co Are the Real Flag Burners

The reason being that Trump doesn't like Mark and others because they actually have the balls to go up against this administration. It's pretty wild though. I gave this analogy the other day when I was talking about with Norm Eisen and Jen Rubin. I said, consider the fact if you were working and you needed, you were a craftsman and you needed your toolkit.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1037: Katie Phang and Greg Casar: Trump & Co Are the Real Flag Burners

The reason being that Trump doesn't like Mark and others because they actually have the balls to go up against this administration. It's pretty wild though. I gave this analogy the other day when I was talking about with Norm Eisen and Jen Rubin. I said, consider the fact if you were working and you needed, you were a craftsman and you needed your toolkit.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1037: Katie Phang and Greg Casar: Trump & Co Are the Real Flag Burners

The reason being that Trump doesn't like Mark and others because they actually have the balls to go up against this administration. It's pretty wild though. I gave this analogy the other day when I was talking about with Norm Eisen and Jen Rubin. I said, consider the fact if you were working and you needed, you were a craftsman and you needed your toolkit.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1037: Katie Phang and Greg Casar: Trump & Co Are the Real Flag Burners

And one day Trump came along and said, you know what, fuck it, I'm taking your toolkit. Warum? Weil ich nicht mag, wie du siehst, oder ich mag nicht, was du ĂŒber mich gesagt hast, oder was auch immer. Und dann hast du literally keine GerĂ€te, um deinen Job zu machen. Mark braucht seine GerĂ€te, um seinen Job zu machen. Er kann seine Klienten nicht reprĂ€sentieren.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1037: Katie Phang and Greg Casar: Trump & Co Are the Real Flag Burners

And one day Trump came along and said, you know what, fuck it, I'm taking your toolkit. Warum? Weil ich nicht mag, wie du siehst, oder ich mag nicht, was du ĂŒber mich gesagt hast, oder was auch immer. Und dann hast du literally keine GerĂ€te, um deinen Job zu machen. Mark braucht seine GerĂ€te, um seinen Job zu machen. Er kann seine Klienten nicht reprĂ€sentieren.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1037: Katie Phang and Greg Casar: Trump & Co Are the Real Flag Burners

And one day Trump came along and said, you know what, fuck it, I'm taking your toolkit. Warum? Weil ich nicht mag, wie du siehst, oder ich mag nicht, was du ĂŒber mich gesagt hast, oder was auch immer. Und dann hast du literally keine GerĂ€te, um deinen Job zu machen. Mark braucht seine GerĂ€te, um seinen Job zu machen. Er kann seine Klienten nicht reprĂ€sentieren.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1037: Katie Phang and Greg Casar: Trump & Co Are the Real Flag Burners

Er hat von ODNI, dem Offizier des Direktors der Nationalen Intelligenz, gesagt, er kann nicht mal einen klassifizierten Anruf gegen einen seiner Klienten anrufen, weil er keinen klassifizierten Anruf hat. Das ist ein typisches retributives Verhalten, das ein krÀftiges Mannschild ist.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1037: Katie Phang and Greg Casar: Trump & Co Are the Real Flag Burners

Er hat von ODNI, dem Offizier des Direktors der Nationalen Intelligenz, gesagt, er kann nicht mal einen klassifizierten Anruf gegen einen seiner Klienten anrufen, weil er keinen klassifizierten Anruf hat. Das ist ein typisches retributives Verhalten, das ein krÀftiges Mannschild ist.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1037: Katie Phang and Greg Casar: Trump & Co Are the Real Flag Burners

Er hat von ODNI, dem Offizier des Direktors der Nationalen Intelligenz, gesagt, er kann nicht mal einen klassifizierten Anruf gegen einen seiner Klienten anrufen, weil er keinen klassifizierten Anruf hat. Das ist ein typisches retributives Verhalten, das ein krÀftiges Mannschild ist.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1037: Katie Phang and Greg Casar: Trump & Co Are the Real Flag Burners

Das Problem ist, dass es große Auswirkungen hat fĂŒr Leute wie Chris Krebs und Miles Taylor und andere, wo es nicht nur ist, ich kann meinen Job nicht machen, sondern es ist jetzt ĂŒbernommen, dass ich jetzt Todesangst habe und Leute wollen mich kommen und mich töten.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1037: Katie Phang and Greg Casar: Trump & Co Are the Real Flag Burners

Das Problem ist, dass es große Auswirkungen hat fĂŒr Leute wie Chris Krebs und Miles Taylor und andere, wo es nicht nur ist, ich kann meinen Job nicht machen, sondern es ist jetzt ĂŒbernommen, dass ich jetzt Todesangst habe und Leute wollen mich kommen und mich töten.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1037: Katie Phang and Greg Casar: Trump & Co Are the Real Flag Burners

Das Problem ist, dass es große Auswirkungen hat fĂŒr Leute wie Chris Krebs und Miles Taylor und andere, wo es nicht nur ist, ich kann meinen Job nicht machen, sondern es ist jetzt ĂŒbernommen, dass ich jetzt Todesangst habe und Leute wollen mich kommen und mich töten.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1037: Katie Phang and Greg Casar: Trump & Co Are the Real Flag Burners

Ja, so think about it, right? It's not just that. And, you know, we grow up with bullies, right? We have bullies in our lives, all of our lives we have people. And maybe as we get older, we are able to manage bullies a little bit better. But when Trump uses his bully pulpit literally as a bully, we have a serious problem.