Katrina Perry

And they're now in limbo, essentially, with these executive orders that President Trump has signed. So There is concern in many quarters about the fate of those individuals and for anyone coming behind them and this is something that came into force immediately and there is great concern in the NGO sector as well as to whether these agencies and these programmes will be stood up again.

And they're now in limbo, essentially, with these executive orders that President Trump has signed. So There is concern in many quarters about the fate of those individuals and for anyone coming behind them and this is something that came into force immediately and there is great concern in the NGO sector as well as to whether these agencies and these programmes will be stood up again.

These are pauses again subject to review that President Trump has ordered. but it's unclear as to what will happen beyond that.

These are pauses again subject to review that President Trump has ordered. but it's unclear as to what will happen beyond that.

And I think we've seen that already even before Donald Trump assumed office for the And credit has been given to him for that intervention from President Biden, amongst others, that it sort of took that different type of speech and different type of approach to get that deal over the line.

And I think we've seen that already even before Donald Trump assumed office for the And credit has been given to him for that intervention from President Biden, amongst others, that it sort of took that different type of speech and different type of approach to get that deal over the line.

And, you know, to build on Gary's point there, he does use threats as a way of getting things for America, as is his right as the American president. All countries are essentially equal. self-interested. That's what they do. The question is, too, how much President Trump is concerned. Is it America first and the rest of the world second or America first?

And, you know, to build on Gary's point there, he does use threats as a way of getting things for America, as is his right as the American president. All countries are essentially equal. self-interested. That's what they do. The question is, too, how much President Trump is concerned. Is it America first and the rest of the world second or America first?

And I don't really care about the rest of the world, particularly when it comes to trade and the dangling of the threat of tariffs being imposed on foreign governments. I mean, we heard him

And I don't really care about the rest of the world, particularly when it comes to trade and the dangling of the threat of tariffs being imposed on foreign governments. I mean, we heard him

enunciate that in a very clear way in his speech at Davos last week basically come and build your products in America or face the consequences we saw over the weekend when he was deporting migrants from Colombia sending them to Colombia The Colombian president refused to take them. And then it was President Trump saying, right, OK, well, face tariffs then if you don't take your people back.

enunciate that in a very clear way in his speech at Davos last week basically come and build your products in America or face the consequences we saw over the weekend when he was deporting migrants from Colombia sending them to Colombia The Colombian president refused to take them. And then it was President Trump saying, right, OK, well, face tariffs then if you don't take your people back.

And, you know, there was a lot of technical issues there about how they were being transported in military planes and so on that the Colombians didn't like. But ultimately, they were able to come to an arrangement to receive these individuals back. and Donald Trump took away the threat of tariffs. So he has a very different way of doing business.

And, you know, there was a lot of technical issues there about how they were being transported in military planes and so on that the Colombians didn't like. But ultimately, they were able to come to an arrangement to receive these individuals back. and Donald Trump took away the threat of tariffs. So he has a very different way of doing business.

He approaches this as he is the CEO of a big company and as he has done business over all the decades of his professional life. You know, as Gary says, it is transactional. It is the art of the deal. It is about doing whatever he has to do to get what he perceives to be best for America.

He approaches this as he is the CEO of a big company and as he has done business over all the decades of his professional life. You know, as Gary says, it is transactional. It is the art of the deal. It is about doing whatever he has to do to get what he perceives to be best for America.

And I think if President Trump decided to take Greenland by force, defending Greenland from US forces would be the least of his worries because that would be viewed as a direct attack on Denmark. So we'd be into a much more serious international situation.

And I think if President Trump decided to take Greenland by force, defending Greenland from US forces would be the least of his worries because that would be viewed as a direct attack on Denmark. So we'd be into a much more serious international situation.

Well, this is one of the executive orders that President Trump has signed that we haven't heard quite as much pushback and reaction to at this point. And this executive order designating these cartels as terrorist organizations is intended to apply maximum pressure.

Well, this is one of the executive orders that President Trump has signed that we haven't heard quite as much pushback and reaction to at this point. And this executive order designating these cartels as terrorist organizations is intended to apply maximum pressure.