Katty Kay

I think we could still be in this kind of Cold War standoff.

Should we talk about what Trump wants to be talking about, Antony?

Because this is not what Trump wants to be talking about.

Trump actually wants to be talking about whether he is a great man of American history.

And what do great men of American history do?

They build stuff in their image.

So he got rid of the king, but he's going to cover everything in gold.

And I've just been struck by how many...

reporters have come up with this story recently.

The best one, which guys, if you haven't read it, is in The Atlantic.

We'll post it in our newsletter, which is Trump quoting Hegel.

I'm not sure that I don't buy the argument, as they said that Trump has read Hegel, but that Trump has begun referring to himself as Julius Caesar, Alexander the Great, and Napoleon.

all men who disrupted their eras and have gone down in history.

What is Trump doing still focused on the ballroom, the reflecting pool, the Kennedy Center, the United States Institute of Peace, the arc to Trump, when he knows, Antony, that that is not what voters elected him to do?

And there is no indication that this is going down well with Republican voters.

We've always said he's not running again.

He's not going to be president again.

Well, he says he's better than Abraham Lincoln and George Washington.

No, that's the problem.

That's the problem.