Katty Kay

Is it having an impact on a perception?

The White House likes to say Trump's playing 4D chess.

And that he is the skilled negotiator and it is all of the art of the deal.

Is that image being impacted by what's happening right now, do you think?

Who messes up, you or your husband, by the way?

I can't believe you ever do, Eugene.

It must be always his fault, right?

Always the one who messes up.

What do you think some of those MAGA voters, like the guy, the soybean farmer who you interviewed in Iowa, I'm wondering too, just the nature of the fact of this second term, how much time and attention, let alone money.

And I think we haven't got to the really interesting reporting yet, which is starting to be done on how much this war is actually in dollars and cents costing American voters, because I think that's going to be super interesting too.

But

What do they think of the amount of time and attention Donald Trump is spending on these foreign ventures?

I mean, I don't know if most of them could find Venezuela on a map.

I'm not sure I could have found Venezuela on a map until Maduro came onto the picture.

Until recently, I actually did go to Caracas, I think, for Chavez's funeral.

So maybe hopefully after that, I could still find it on a map.

But most people, you know, Venezuela's far away.

It didn't impact most people.

Maduro did not impact most American voters.

Iran also.