Katty Kay

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12,917 appearances 58 recordings 6 series first heard Feb 2026 last heard 3d ago

Katty Kay’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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The Rest Is Politics: US · 222. The Man Who Just Stood Between Trump and Economic Chaos · 17 Sep 2026 podcast

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So you build the book, Anthony, around three catastrophic policy decisions. voice-verified

And I want to talk about the first one. voice-verified

We've set the stage in the background and this sense of kind of mistrust that people have. voice-verified

We come out of the Cold War and America has won and been triumphant and everyone is buying into capitalism and pluralism and the American way of doing things. voice-verified

And there is a belief that the rest of the world voice-verified

will follow the example of the end of the Cold War, that if we open up trade to the rest of the world, it'll be like a bit like the extension of that kind of very early trading block in the United States at the beginning of its history around the American Revolution, that China essentially will follow the pattern of the Eastern European countries, that we could just bring them in voice-verified

as we have brought in Eastern Europe. voice-verified

Remember, the wall has just come down and this big Soviet bloc that no one could get into, suddenly it's accessible and they are developing judicial systems and rule of law and free trade agreements and allowing people access to capital in a way that we kind of thought had been impossible even perhaps five or 10 years beforehand. voice-verified

And so perhaps it's no surprise that policymakers who have just come out of that extraordinary voice-verified

extraordinary moment of triumph and change in one communist block of the world, look around and they say to themselves, hey, it's happened in Eastern Europe. voice-verified

It could happen in China too. voice-verified

And then we would all be free trading. voice-verified

And then there will be even more money for everybody. voice-verified

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I'm playing devil's advocate here because that was the consensus in the 1990s. voice-verified

And that is when we get to the first catastrophic decision, which is what we talked about right at the beginning of this program, China's accession to the World Trade Organization. voice-verified

Gadi, voice-verified

So I think this is a really interesting moment to talk about Bill Clinton because Bill Clinton, of course, child of the Cold War, comes out of that kind of consensus era of, voice-verified

And he and George H.W. voice-verified

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